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Brand | Cat |
Operating System | Android 10.0 |
Ram Memory Installed Size | 6 GB |
CPU Speed | 2 GHz |
Memory Storage Capacity | 6 GB |
Screen Size | 5.7 Inches |
Model Name | CS62PDBBRONUN |
Wireless Carrier | Unlocked |
Cellular Technology | LTE |
Connectivity Technology | Wi-Fi |
About this item
- Optimized For North American Carriers: Compatible with major carriers like AT&T, T-Mobile, and more.
- Drop Tested: Withstands drops up to 6 feet onto steel surfaces.
- Long Battery Life: Provides up to 2 days of battery life on a single charge.
- Waterproof Design: Ruggedized to be waterproof and dust resistant.
- Advanced Thermal Imaging: Includes FLIR thermal imaging for enhanced temperature monitoring.
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Cat S62 Pro
The ultimate work phone
Optimized for AT&T, T-Mobile, Cricket Wireless, Boost Mobile GSM, Metro and Ting Mobile in North America.
Not compatible with Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular or any CDMA based carriers
The Cat S62 Pro features several exclusive enhancements providing even more thermal detail to help locate and diagnose the damp, the draught, the leak, the hotspot, the electrical short, the blockage or the elevated temperature.
Highly sensitive to minute temperature differences and with substantial improvements to the thermal image quality and clarity, the S62 Pro offers significant new enhancements.
It’s powered by the high resolution FLIR lepton, the FLIR Lepton 3.5 professional-grade sensor, which brings a huge 4x increase in the number of thermal pixels. Combined with FLIR’s VividIR technology, the Cat S62 Pro delivers enhanced image quality, sharper image and higher thermal resolution.
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The North America Variant UPC Code Is: 8 10296 02514 0
The North American variant has the proper banding to be optimized for use with the North American carriers. The Latin America, Europe and Rest of World variants will not operate properly in the U.S. and Canada, and may not be supported by the CATPhone service centers in North America.
The North American Variant Includes:
- USA & Canada Carrier Optimized (Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,25,26,41,66,71)
Return If The UPC Code Is Incorrect (Check Label on CAT S62 box).
Highlights
- Integrated FLIR Technology
- 4,000 mAh battery, up to two days general use
- Modern Rugged Design: 810 Mil Spec H Rugged Design: Sand, dust and dirt resistant
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 Octo Core 2.0GHz
- Google Android 10 (with upgrade to 11)
- 128GB ROM 6GB RAM (Expandable via microSD card up to 256GB)
- Sensors: FLIR Thermal Lepton 3.5, Fingerprint, NFC, Proximity, GPS, Ambient Light, Compass, Gyro
Functional design. Rugged durability.
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Versatile workhorseThe Cat S62 Pro features several exclusive enhancements providing even more thermal detail to help locate and diagnose the damp, the draught, the leak, the hotspot, the electrical short, the blockage or the elevated temperature. |
Beyond ruggedDustproof and drop proof to 1.8m, vibration, sand, salt mist and pressure resistant. Made tough to endure a variety of different work environments. |
Next Generation ThermalPowered by the highest resolution FLIR lepton available today, the FLIR Lepton 3.5 professional-grade sensor, which brings a huge 4x increase in the number of thermal pixels. Combined with FLIR’s VividIR technology, the Cat S62 Pro delivers enhanced image quality, sharper image and higher thermal resolution. |
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Price | $225.00$225.00 | $559.99$559.99 | $379.99$379.99 |
Display Type | Super Bright 5.5” Display - HD+ (1440 x 720) 18:9. IPS LCD, wet finger/glove-on working technology* | 5” Display – FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, wet finger/glove-on working technology* | 5.7” FHD+ 18:9 display |
Battery | 4,200 mAh | 4,000 mAh | 4,000 mAh |
Display Cover | Corning Gorilla Glass 5 | Corning Gorilla Glass 5 | Corning Gorilla Glass 6 |
Camera | 13MP sensor, f/2.0, PDAF | 13MP autofocus with LED flash | 12MP dual sensor, f/1.8 aperture, large 1.4μm pixel size |
Waterproof | Up to 1.5m for 35 minutes | Up to 4ft for 35 mins | Up to 5ft for 35 minutes |
Made Rugged | Drop Tested: Up to 1.8m (6ft) onto steel | Dust Resistant, drop tested up to 6ft (1.8M) onto concrete, Operating Temp: -13°F (-25°C) to 131°F (55°C), Category 4 vibration | Sand, dust and dirt resistant, Drop Tested: Up to 6ft onto steel |
Size | 6.34 x 3.04 x 0.5 inches | 5.9 x 3.0 x 0.5 inches | 6.24 x 3.01 x 0.46 inches |
Weight | 220g | 258g | 248g |
Networks | 4G LTE Bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 14, 17, 25, 26, 41, 66, 71; 3G Bands: 1, 2, 4, 5, 8; 2, 3, 5, 8 | 2G: GSM 2/3/5/8, CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10; 3G UMTS B1/2/4/5/8, EVDO BCO/BC1/BC10; 4G CAT 13, B2/3/4/5/7/12/13/14/25/26/41/66; VoLTE Wi-Fi DUAL MODE 2.4/5GHZ (A/B/G/N) | 4G LTE CAT 13, VoLTE, VoWiFi, ViLTE LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/25/26/41/66/71 3G Bands: 1/2/4/5/8 2G Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 |
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CAT S62 Pro Rugged Smartphone – North America Variant – with FLIR Thermal Imager – Full Warranty Support in US and Canada
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Fingerprint reader | 3.9 | 4.8 | — | 4.8 | 3.5 | 4.0 |
Battery life | 3.6 | 5.0 | — | 5.0 | 4.4 | 3.7 |
Face recognition | 3.0 | 4.5 | — | 4.7 | 2.0 | 3.1 |
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display size | 5.7 inches | 6.78 inches | 6.5 inches | 6.78 inches | 6.58 inches | 6.58 inches |
memory capacity | 6 GB | 256 GB | 16 GB | 256 GB | 256 GB | 256 GB |
model name | CS62PDBBRONUN | Armor 24 | Blackview Smartphone BV8900 | Ulefone Armor 24 (22000mAh Mega Battery) | B2 pro | Ulefone Armor 21 16GB+256GB-Black |
operating system | Android 10.0 | Android 13.0 | Android | Android 13 | Android | Android 13 |
connectivity tech | Wi-Fi | NFC | Wireless | NFC | NFC | Wi-Fi |
display type | LCD | LCD | LCD | LCD | LCD | LCD |
battery average life | 40 hours | 5 years | — | 110 hours | — | — |
input interface | touch screen | touch screen | touch screen | touch screen | touch screen | touch screen |
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Product information
Product Dimensions | 6.24 x 3.02 x 0.47 inches |
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Item Weight | 1 pounds |
ASIN | B08YR66D1H |
Item model number | CS62PDBBRONUN |
Batteries | 1 Lithium Metal batteries required. (included) |
Customer Reviews |
3.5 out of 5 stars |
OS | Android 10.0 |
RAM | 6 GB |
Wireless communication technologies | Cellular |
Connectivity technologies | Wi-Fi |
Special features | Rugged Body |
Other display features | Wireless |
Human Interface Input | Touchscreen |
Other camera features | Front |
Form Factor | Slate |
Color | Black |
Battery Power Rating | 4000 |
Whats in the box | CAT S62 Pro, USB Type C charging cable, Product manual |
Manufacturer | CAT |
Date First Available | April 16, 2021 |
Memory Storage Capacity | 6 GB |
Standing screen display size | 5.7 Inches |
Ram Memory Installed Size | 6 GB |
Battery Capacity | 4000 Milliamp Hours |
Weight | 16 ounces |
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Customers are disappointed with the cellular phone's compatibility. They say it doesn't work on T-Mobile, Verizon, and ATT. They also say it's painfully slow, has poor reception, and has a laggy processor. Customers also dislike connectivity, and sound quality. Opinions are mixed on quality, durability, battery life, and value.
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Customers are mixed about the quality of the cellular phone. Some mention that it's amazing, great product, and rugged, while others say that it is the worst phone they have ever owned, has the worst call quality, and the systems aren't worth it.
"...Thermal imaging - it can see hot or cold spots in superb detail around my house, although the actual temperature readings aren't necessarily spot on..." Read more
"...The camera is pretty average overall but the experience of using it is generally quick...." Read more
"...Positives: It's rugged, simple, programmable key, the thermal was useful for me to identify potential issues in the facility and I didn't have to..." Read more
"...It's phenomenal. The screen is beautiful. The camera is not the best in the world, but it's solid. The performance is as good as you could ask for...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the durability of the cellular phone. Some mention it's very good and rugged as every review claims, while others say that the screen can still break. The setup wouldn't even open and would crash immediately. The phone is not as tough as described, and the default camera app crashes.
"...Battery life - I am a minimalist on phone feature usage but it is very solid, often going a week between charges...." Read more
"...Positives: It's rugged, simple, programmable key, the thermal was useful for me to identify potential issues in the facility and I didn't have to..." Read more
"Cheap chinese port made to break. When I first bought this phone I thought I was buying American since it was CAT...." Read more
"...Overall the handset is very good and as rugged as every review claims. The phone is well sized and easily fits in a pocket...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the battery life of the cellular phone. Some mention that it lasts a long time, while others say that it doesn't last a day, the battery becomes loose, and the phone shuts off randomly.
"...but it takes so long to load the average app or webpage that it times out and gives up frequently...." Read more
"...from zero to full 3-4 times before needing charged, and can hold a full charge for months. Great little back up!!" Read more
"...It's also painfully slow, has poor reception, and has just OK battery life for a phone with a 4000 mah battery and a not very big or bright screen." Read more
"...Other pros:-battery is amazing. Can last up to 2 days and charges really fast.-programmable button...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the value of the cellular phone. Some mention that the fact that it's under $800 is absolutely insane, and the price point vs performance is very well balanced. Others say that it feels like a cheaper device.
"...My other complaint is I feel it is overpriced for not being able to support 5G or the newest VoLTE tech...." Read more
"...it is a great rugged phone, with pretty good performance for a very reasonable price. It is one of the best phones I have owned...." Read more
"feels like a cheaper device because its really a $300 phone with a $300 thermal camera and a $3 photo camera also does not support fast charging..." Read more
"...The fact that it's under $800 is absolutely insane. They also look cool and are the same size as any phone out there with a case...." Read more
Customers are dissatisfied with the compatibility of the cellular phone. They mention that it doesn't work on T-Mobile, Ting-Mobile or Boost Mobile, and that it only partially works on Verizon. Some customers also report issues with the built-in apps and signal.
"...However, despite what the description states, this phone will not work with T-Mobile...." Read more
"...This phone will only partially work on Verizon...." Read more
"...i get random error messages like mail app not working, it had a weird fatal error type issue last week and said i had to factory reset the phone...." Read more
"...UPDATE: THIS PHONE WILL NOT FULLY WORK ON CRICKET. YOU CAN NOT MAKE OR RECEIVE CALLS...." Read more
Customers are dissatisfied with the performance of the cellular phone. They mention that it's painfully slow, has poor reception, and has just OK battery. They also say that the apps can be a little laggy at times, and the phone charges super-slow. Some customers also mention that the thermal camera is not good and freezes and doesn't respond. They say the software is very buggy and the operating system was great.
"...-Apps can be a little laggy at times-no wireless charging" Read more
"...Negatives: The CAT/Bullitt software was buggy. There is also input lag, phantom presses, non-responsiveness, although my last CAT was like this too...." Read more
"...I understand this is a lower mid range processor but it takes so long to load the average app or webpage that it times out and gives up frequently...." Read more
"...The camera is not the best in the world, but it's solid. The performance is as good as you could ask for...." Read more
Customers are dissatisfied with the connectivity of the cellular phone. They mention that it has poor cell connection, reception is terrible, and the SIM card is not compatible with their network. They also say that Bluetooth and apps are iffy, and that the phone doesn't always respond when they try to open an app.
"the cell connection is spotty where my 4 year old samsung has no issues. same carrier same sim card...." Read more
"...It's also painfully slow, has poor reception, and has just OK battery life for a phone with a 4000 mah battery and a not very big or bright screen." Read more
"...from the back of the phone, and this phone is not supported by any of the networks, so it is not usable." Read more
"...when I tried to get a Verizon SIM card they said it is not compatible with their network" Read more
Customers are dissatisfied with the sound quality of the cellular phone. They mention that it has a huge echo, is noisy, and that it sounds garbled and choppy. They also say that noise suppression is not used and that the gain is too high.
"...I tried to call or receive a call from complained that I sounded garbled and choppy...." Read more
"...It does work great with wet hands.Sound quality is super, voices are clear and music is clean, which I was worried about due to the..." Read more
"...biggest issue is placing calls no one can hear me or I sound distorted which makes using the phone impossible.phone can only be used with..." Read more
"...and amazing except during calls if people can hear me at all they hear a huge echo and I may or may not be able to hear them at all as well" Read more
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As for features and network compatibility, this thing is great:
Network - I am using it on T-mobile, no issues. I routinely have a strong signal when others around me have no signal, so the radio in it has plenty of power. When I am in remote mountain areas, sometimes I do have to roam on AT&T and that works fine too (although AT&T claims these phones will not work on their network).
Operating system - Android 11, very easy to navigate, and aligns well with the number and placement of buttons on this phone. This phone was so easy to learn, I often felt like I was missing something somewhere. Everything makes sense and no hoops to jump through to use features.
Apps - This phone has no extra junk, and no built in ads. I love this. If I want an app, it's Android so I can can add it, but I like it lean and mean. Less is better. If you ever had a Samsung and all their extra junk and ads, you will really appreciate this phone.
Thermal imaging - it can see hot or cold spots in superb detail around my house, although the actual temperature readings aren't necessarily spot on - distance from target can account for a degree or two, but it does illustrate temperature differences very well. I have found hot spots in my roof to add more insulation, a leaking hot water line in a wall, as well as underground sprinkler leaks.
Touchscreen - I really struggle with touchscreens because I am a contractor and my hands are always either wet or super dry and cracked. This is the best touchscreen I had ever used. It is sensitive and accurate, but not too much so. It does work great with wet hands.
Sound quality is super, voices are clear and music is clean, which I was worried about due to the extra waterproofing. The ringtone can be set to an obnoxious level if you're like me and never hear your phone ring.
Extra storage - it will read and use a 256 gig micro SD
Battery life - I am a minimalist on phone feature usage but it is very solid, often going a week between charges. It is the original battery so that is pretty good after 2-1/2 years.
The Power Bank – If you are considering the bundle with the power bank, I have 3 of them. They can charge the phone from zero to full 3-4 times before needing charged, and can hold a full charge for months. Great little back up!!
It's also waterproof which means I have no problem using it in the pool or when bathing.
Being a rugged phone means I don't need to buy a case. Have dropped it a couple times with virtually no damage.
Other pros:
-battery is amazing. Can last up to 2 days and charges really fast.
-programmable button. Use it for FLIR camera and flashlight functions.
The only cons:
-Camera is low res (so it can overlay images with the FLIR camera)
-Apps can be a little laggy at times
-no wireless charging
I love the thermal and ruggedness of this phone as I carry my phone at work in an industrial environment.
My older CAT phone worked with my carrier - this one does not.(For reasons the carrier could not provide) so I had to switch carriers.
Positives: It's rugged, simple, programmable key, the thermal was useful for me to identify potential issues in the facility and I didn't have to carry a large imager around. I like the grippiness of it and how hefty it feels. I like that it did not come loaded with too much bloatware.
Negatives: The CAT/Bullitt software was buggy. There is also input lag, phantom presses, non-responsiveness, although my last CAT was like this too. The software has bugs that have not been addressed for years now. I also did not like the difficulty changing the save path for the cameras. It automatically saves to Google Photos and the software makes it difficult to change this. There is no included gallery (except Photos), the IR software has it's own library path. The battery life in the phone I received was terrible. My old CAT lasted for days of frequent use. This model barely made it through a day of light use at work. My other complaint is I feel it is overpriced for not being able to support 5G or the newest VoLTE tech. You are really just paying a premium for the IR camera.
I really wanted to like this phone and I am a fan of CAT/Bullitt products, but this one is being returned.
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Then I met the S61. I dropped it multiple floors. I dropped it in rivers and ponds. Took it high pressure blasting. It got driven over. Frozen and overheated. I slammed it in my tailgate and bent it a smidge, without breaking the glass. It was years old when I finally lost it in the bush, in deep snow. That thing was perfect for me.
And here is round 2.
Pro tip: if you cut or grind metal, toss it in a sealable bag to keep the metal filings and dust out of the speaker magnets. That stuff murders every phone out there. Even the good old Cat.
I really, really wanted to like this phone, but I don't. After a few weeks, I decided to return it because it's not even close to being useful and user friendly.
Some of the issues are with the OS, which is not the phone's fault, but here is the list of the issues I have with it:
Extremely poor reception. This is a phone, first and foremost and it's not doing it. In places where my old Samsung Galaxy had one or two bars of reception, this thing doesn't have signal. When talking on the phone and the reception is low or poor, the calls become very digital sounding and just cuts out randomly.
The network operates on 2G, 3G and LTE. And as far as I can tell, it doesn't seem to switch back and forth between them well. It states in the program it has wi-fi calling, but it has not worked. As for the reception, I have telus, and in the areas where the Samsung had good reception, this phone does not. The company blames it on the provider, but clearly the issue is with their hardware.
Massive issue is the SD Card. When you first put one in, it requests to select how you will use it, to transfer files (removable and transferable between devices) or as internal expansion storage. Once you select it, the phone formats it accordingly. Well I want to use it to transfer files and plug it into my laptop when needed. Every time I remove the SD Card and put it back in, it has an error and requires to format the card AGAIN! Completely useless since it deletes everything.
I contacted CAT and they recommend using it via USB to transfer. Well that doesn't work either because the phone keeps either dropping USB connection or just hangs there doing nothing.
Another completely screwed up feature.
The camera video record feature sometimes records with no audio. No reason for it, once it works, once it doesn't. I lost a bunch of footage I cannot get back because it's with no audio. No visible setting or change that affects it. Completely unreliable and useless.
No headphone jack! Seriously? This is supposed to be a work phone and many times on job sites I still need a headset. You have to buy a USB to headphone jack adaptor for that, one more thing to stick out of the phone and you can't charge it at the same time.
The camera's HDR feature performs poorly in low lighting, also it's 12MP??? Seriously, in 2023 you could even break 20MP?
My biggest annoyance with it is the OS though. Its google heavy Android is annoying as hell. At least Samsung would give you the option to turn off features and updates. Google is all controlling, you're getting updates even if you don't want them.
Oh and the pointless Google assistant at the top of the home screen can be disabled, but it NEVER goes away! It just sits there mocking you and telling you it's disabled and you should turn it back on. Screw you Google Assistant!
Everything tries to sync to Google and back-up, update, and notify you. Took hours to go through everything and turn as much off as I could.
Another annoyance is the notifications, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I won't get a new Outlook email notification for hours at times, same even with Gmail.
The last annoyance is the sleep screen. Samsung figured this out, when sleeping, show a clock, because it barely uses battery and it's useful. This phone doesn't do that, only will do it if it's in charge or a cradle? Regardless, when you select both, still doesn't show normally.
For a work phone that costs over $500, huge screw up CAT!
I will never buy this brand again.