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Track Listings
1 | Black Friday |
2 | Bad Sneakers |
3 | Rose Darling |
4 | Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More |
5 | Doctor Wu |
6 | Everyone's Gone to the Movies |
7 | Your Gold Teeth II |
8 | Chain Lightning |
9 | Any World (That I'm Welcome to) |
10 | Throw Back the Little Ones |
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Newly digitally re-mastered, this reissue of Steely Dan's landmark album includes all original credits, liner notes, graphics and complete lyrics. Led by dynamic New Yorkers Walter Becker and Donald Fagan, Steely Dan took studio perfectionism to a whole new level and, with uniquely wry lyrics and hooks and melody to spare, the results never cease to delight. Tracks include "Bad Sneakers," "Doctor Wu," the title track and more. Upcoming 1999 Steely Dan tour!
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- Is Discontinued By Manufacturer : No
- Language : English
- Product Dimensions : 5.55 x 5 x 0.39 inches; 3.46 ounces
- Manufacturer : Universal Music Group
- Item model number : 1972346
- Original Release Date : 1999
- Date First Available : December 12, 2006
- Label : Universal Music Group
- ASIN : B00000IPAB
- Country of Origin : USA
- Number of discs : 1
- Best Sellers Rank: #9,882 in CDs & Vinyl (See Top 100 in CDs & Vinyl)
- #272 in Soft Rock (CDs & Vinyl)
- #575 in Album-Oriented Rock (AOR) (CDs & Vinyl)
- #4,864 in Rock (CDs & Vinyl)
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Until I got a Zen DAC V2, my CDs sounded lifeless due to a "haze" or veil coming from my previous cheap DACs (all Sabre-based: 9018/28/38), the last of which was a Topping D10s. (See my Zen DAC V2 review - click on the waveform-illustration at the top of the reviews, and navigate to the version with paragraph-breaks.) But through the Zen, the 99 KL CD really came to life, with analog richness, warmth and liquidity, although the cymbals seem a touch dry. If you don't want to shell out $200 for the Zen, the Soundavo HP-DAC1 uses the same basic type of DAC-chip (TI/B-B Advanced Segment DAC) as the Zen, and is supposedly in the same league as the Zen, but doesn't decode MQA.
The KL analog master was dbx-encoded, which is a type of compression, so that the analog master (apparently the "safety" master - a carefully-preserved copy of the original stereo analog master, made when the original master was new) was relatively unaffected by analog-tape aging. By the time it was digitized (in 1998, using an Apogee AD-8000 24-bit, 44.1/48 kHz ADC), I suppose that dbx might have come out with an upgraded decoder which would have gotten better sound from the master than the original decoder.
So, this CD might even be better than the LP, which was made from a 24-bit master made from a 3M master which was made back in 1981 or so. The 3M had a 50kHz sampling-rate, and used the same DACs to record (as part of the ADCs) and play back, thus canceling out DAC linearity errors. In any case, Dan liked the 3M better than their analog Studer deck. But the masters had to be played back on the deck which was used for recording them, in order to get the best sound quality. So, in 2006 or so, Roger Nichols transferred all the 3Ms to 24-bit, which have been used for the LPs and will probably never be released on digital. No matter - the 1999 CDs are fine with me, but only through an "analog"-sounding DAC without the deadly jitter-haze.
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The previous rev (5/1/21) contains useful information, so I left it, but tweaked it to clarify it and to correct errors (mainly the claim that the original and 1985 CD-releases were made from the original stereo analog masters):
Roger Nichols (Dan's main engineer) made a back-up copy ("safety master") of each of the original stereo analog masters for Dan's early studio albums, when each one was new. He stored the safety masters in his personal archive, preserved them well, and made a 24-bit digital copy of each one as soon as he obtained a studio-grade 24-bit A-to-D converter (an Apogee AD-8000, S/N 1) and gained confidence in it. These 24-bit masters are the basis for the 1999 remasters. He probably used an Apogee UV-22 to convert the 24-bit masters to CD-masters which sound as if they have a 20-bit dynamic range.
The 1999 CD-remasters for Thrill, Katy, Scam, Aja, and Gaucho are the excellent (through the Zen, the 99 Aja CD sounds like the MoFi LP, which I got new, except that the high end isn't as clean because the safety master was 21 years old when it was digitized), but I haven't heard Countdown's or Pretzel's yet.
In previous revisions of this review, I claimed that the 1985 Katy Lied digital master sounds much better than the 1999 KL CD, but I was apparently just hearing what I subconsciously wanted to hear. After further listening, I realized that the 1999 CD is slightly better than the 1985 digital master. However, the other 1985 digital masters are awful, mainly because most of the master tapes (copies of the original masters, used for making LPs and stored improperly at the record company) were in lousy condition when they were digitized in 1985. The 1985 Aja CD is tolerable but the high end had to be boosted and doesn't sound so hot. Gaucho's LP-master was in fairly good condition, but it was played too fast when it was being dubbed to digital, so that the slower cuts on the digital master sound rushed. Katy Lied's LP-master was dbx-encoded (so the safety master is too), which apparently isolated the recording from the tape (and its deterioration) to some extent. So, even though KL's LP-master deteriorated quite a bit by 1985, its recording wasn't affected very much.
The fact that the two KL CDs sound so much alike, although the 1985 digital master was made with a 16-bit, 44.1 KHz digital deck with Apogee aftermarket input filters, is a testament to the quality of the Apogee filters, which are very complex, expensive active filters, due to the required steep cutoff at about 20 KHz. The typical stock filters had phase nonlinearities, which produced dry recordings with mediocre imaging, as can be heard in the Citizen and Very Best Of compilation-CDs. (These were supposedly made from the original masters, but they too were made from the LP-masters, but in 1981, when they were in better condition.) The Apogee AD-8000 used for the 1998 digital masters samples the analog input at a high frequency, so it uses very simple passive input filters which would take very little toll on the input signal.
The 1999 "original recording remastered" version has superb sound quality as you'd expect (with Fagen & Becker having long been the consummate perfectionists)--it also, in utterly characteristic fashion, adds some supremely sarcastic liner notes written by Fagen & Becker themselves, and the layout of the original vinyl LP is splendidly recreated as well. In the end, this is the most desirable version of "Katy Lied" to have.
Over the years I have been slowly replacing my old Vinyl records with mastered CD's ....
I actually have "Countdown to Ectasy" and "Katy Lied" on Vinyl ...tracks that I completely forgot about
one night was watching a 70's or 80's movie ....
during a scene, a background song was playing ...and I said to myself "I know that one" ...so I googled "Steely Dan" albums ....sampled a few songs, and there it was ...tracks that I completely forgot about
I forgot how good these 2 albums are .... songs that get in your head - and they stick with you for the rest of the week