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Thrustmaster T16000M FCS (Compatible with PC)
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- The T.16000M FCS is compatible with PC via USB in Windows (32-bit and 64-bit).
- The T.16000M FCS offers you a precision level greater than current systems, which will not decrease over time, thanks to the joystick's H.E.A.R.T technology (U.S. patent US08471815).
- Fully ambidextrous joystick: 3 removable components allow the joystick to be perfectly tailored for left-handed or right-handed use.
- The joystick includes 16 action buttons with braille style physical button identification and one 8-way Point of View hat switch and 4 independent axes including twist rudder
- The T.A.R.G.E.T software allows you to load and create specific mapping profiles for each game.
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ASIN | B01MQEDEEW |
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Release date | November 28, 2016 |
Customer Reviews |
4.4 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #5,154 in Video Games (See Top 100 in Video Games) #18 in PC Game Flight Controls |
Product Dimensions | 8.18 x 9.44 x 7.79 inches; 1.89 Pounds |
Type of item | Video Game |
Language | English, French |
Item model number | 2960773 |
Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
Item Weight | 1.89 pounds |
Manufacturer | Thrustmaster VG |
Country of Origin | China |
Date First Available | November 1, 2016 |
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Thrustmaster has devoted its 25 years of expertise in flight sim controllers to meet the growing demand from flight simmers in general - and space simmers in particular. The T.16000M FCS has been designed for advanced fliers looking for comprehensive, realistic controls as an alternative to using a mouse and keyboard. The T.16000M FCS (Flight Control System) flight stick is compatible with PC via USB in Windows 10, 8, 7 and Vista (32-bit and 64-bit).
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The New T.16000M FCS.
Thrustmaster has devoted its 25 years of expertise in flight sim controllers to meet the growing demand from flight simmers in general – and space simmers in particular.
The T.16000M FCS has been designed for advanced fliers looking for comprehensive, realistic controls as an alternative to using a mouse and keyboard.
The T.16000M FCS (Flight Control System) flight stick is compatible with PC via USB in Windows 10, 8, 7 and Vista (32-bit and 64-bit).
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T.16000M FCSThe T.16000M FCS features 4 independent axes, including twist rudder (controlled by rotating the stick), 16 action buttons with “braille”-style physical button identification, one 8-way Point of View (PoV) hat switch and an ergonomic trigger. Its striking orange accents and backlighting bring gamers’ immersion to a whole new level. |
H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate TechnologyIn order to give the user high-precision performance, pitch and roll on the T.16000M FCS flight stick employ H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate Technology (U.S. patent US08471815) for 16-bit resolution (i.e. 16000 x 16000 values) – the same pinpoint accuracy delivered by the extremely high-end HOTAS Warthog joystick, allowing gamers to engage their enemies with surgical precision. The helical spring (0.1” / 2.8 mm in diameter) inside |
Ambidextrous designThe joystick’s unique ambidextrous design can be easily switched between right-handed and left-handed use. Its twisting handle controls the rudder by default, but can also be locked in place. Piloting with a joystick in each hand is now possible in all games compatible with two joysticks. |
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Thrustmaster advanced flying ecosystemThese products are part of a range of flight simulation peripherals that can be used in conjunction with one another: a complete ecosystem featuring the FCS flight stick, TWCS throttle, TFRP rudder pedals* and MFD* (Multi-Functional Display) cockpit panels. These elements are also compatible with the T.A.R.G.E.T advanced programming software. |
T.A.R.G.E.T advanced programming software** on PC: program up to 256 buttons in the flying ecosystemThrustmaster Advanced pRogramming Graphical EdiTor software: combine with other Thrustmaster devices (so that they are recognized as a single USB device), and load or create specific mapping profiles for each game. Tailor your own profiles to enhance most Thrustmaster flight controllers, and share them with the Thrustmaster community |
Ergonomic design for optimum comfort and precisionThanks to its design and ergonomics, the T.16000M FSC provides players with multiple recognizable features, allowing them to become more effective and accurate when in flight. This enhanced access to flight controls proves even more essential when players are fully immersed in the exceptional flight experience delivered by VR-compatible games. |
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Customers like the comfort, ease of use, and value of the video game controller. They mention that the buttons are textured and more ergonomical, making them easier to learn to use. They appreciate the value, and performance. However, some customers differ on quality, responsiveness, lubrication, and buttons.
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Customers like the performance of the video game controller. They say that the controls are tight, smooth in action, and can do it all pretty well. They also appreciate the quality, accuracy, and functionality. They mention that the throttle's slide design works fine, and that they're easy to install and work right out of the box. Overall, customers are happy with the performance and functionality of the product.
"...whether you're a new pilot or a seasoned veteran, this stick can do it all pretty well...." Read more
"...are quite nice and after two weeks I am tickled pink that this system works great...." Read more
"...rolling halfway down a runway and hit V2 only to discover that my pitch does not work...." Read more
"...All controls are accurate, seem well constructed, and work great in DCS...." Read more
Customers like the ease of use of the video game controller. For example, they say it's very easy to manage, worth the effort, and easy to DIY upgrades. Some say it offers an exciting experience for space sim enthusiasts, and is a great addition to the games they play. That said, some say it is good for beginners and a good addition to their flight sims.
"...The hog is great for flying an old warplane or something that's really slow, but not so great when dogfighting in a space sim, or when needing to do..." Read more
"...IT WORKS!! No programming needed, even for Elite Dangerous, my fave game...." Read more
"...Pros:* They are intuitive, making them easy to learn to use.*..." Read more
"...This all has deepened the experience and my enjoyment greatly...." Read more
Customers like the value of the video game controller. They say that it's excellent value for money, if you want more HOTAS than a T-flight X but don't need it. They also say the joystick itself is relatively cheap and the game custom mapping is worth it.
"Summary: The T-16000M Duo-sticks are a great affordable way to get into using a HOSAS setup on a space-sim game, though they have some drawbacks..." Read more
"...I am happy with my TWCS throttle, reasonable price, great for VR, decent quality.Easy DIY upgrades:..." Read more
"...The VKB is pricier, but worth every single penny if your plan is an involved simulator like DCS...." Read more
"...All told this was a good purchase for the price I paid for it...." Read more
Customers have mixed feelings about the buttons of the video game controller. Some say they are well-placed and easy to use, while others complain about the mushiness and the lack of button numbers. Some mention that the plastic feels good, but some say that the buttons wiggle.
"...The button layout is also much better on the hog. However, once you factor in the price difference and the twist axis, this stick is my daily driver...." Read more
"...The feel and the buttons are quite nice and after two weeks I am tickled pink that this system works great...." Read more
"...The extra buttons on the throttle are nice and every one of them is easily reached and I have smallish hands...." Read more
"...Cons:* The buttons on the base are just too awkward to get at in the heat of the moment (requiring taking your hands off stick), and will..." Read more
Customers like the comfort of the video game controller. They say it feels more natural in the hand, the flight stick's trigger feels good, and the buttons are textured and more ergonomic. The design is well thought out and feels natural with gameplay. The feel of all the buttons is just fine, and all the hats work nice and precise. Customers also say that the controller has a crisp feel and no signs of wear or tear.
"...most of the buttons now are textured and more ergonomical, and it seems that the spring makes a lot less noise and is of..." Read more
"...The feel of all the buttons is just fine and all the hats work nice and precise...." Read more
"...As far as stick movement they are smooth and buttery and feel very nice...." Read more
"...side of the base, but the rear three on either side of the base are too stiff, funky, and difficult to reach to have any use beyond the rarest or..." Read more
Customers are mixed about the quality of the video game controller. Some mention that everything feels good quality, while others say that the build quality on the stick is very questionable. The plastic certainly doesn't seem cheap, and the molding is thick enough that it doesn' t feel hollow or cheap. However, some say that it does not last and the software is buggy.
"...and it seems that the spring makes a lot less noise and is of slightly higher quality...." Read more
"...are careful, you will not void the warranty doing this - the things are made well and are durable enough to handle this...." Read more
"...The TARGET configuration software is famously terrible, and can actually cause your system to not recognize the sticks, or may prevent you from..." Read more
"...They are very sturdy too." Read more
Customers are mixed about the lubrication of the video game controller. Some mention that the throttle moves very smoothly, while others say that it can become sticky or jittery. The sticks are notorious for developing stick drift, and the interface makes the static friction coefficient much greater than the kinetic.
"...These sticks are notorious for developing stick drift on at least one axis, which is not unreasonable for the build quality at this price range...." Read more
"...video on how to take them down for improvements, such as the Throttle now is re-lubed and smooth as glass - its really great as while I am playing E..." Read more
"...Speaking of which, the throttle action is terrible, possibly due to the styrofoam, but it remained terrible even after disassembly and meticulous..." Read more
"...The throttle is much smoother and has a nice long range to it so it makes the throttle control very precise and I love the throttles linear motion...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the responsiveness of the video game controller. Some mention that it works well, is smooth in action, and has polymer bushings that make the throttle extremely smooth. However, others say that the slide is not smooth enough, and there's a lot of friction that makes precise maneuvers difficult.
"...down for improvements, such as the Throttle now is re-lubed and smooth as glass - its really great as while I am playing E:D I often make very..." Read more
"...Some downsides: the base. The buttons on the base suck, the slider is horrible, and all are in very I convenient positions...." Read more
"...They seem to be well made and very smooth...." Read more
"...The extra mass will reduce stickyness, and give the motion a more realistic feel...." Read more
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So with that out of the way, this is my favorite stick. It feels weird to say that when I own a warthog, and the build quality and general feel is definitely better on the warthog. The button layout is also much better on the hog. However, once you factor in the price difference and the twist axis, this stick is my daily driver. Another big advantage this stick has over the hog, to me, is the lighter springs. The hog is great for flying an old warplane or something that's really slow, but not so great when dogfighting in a space sim, or when needing to do really precise movements. I just overall find this stick to be easier to use for space sims in general.
The new model doesn't seem like a massive upgrade from the old one. I'm not sure what's up with the orange coloring, but I digress. The main difference is that the buttons on the base now have textured markings (which is a life saver in VR or if you just don't want to be looking down), most of the buttons now are textured and more ergonomical, and it seems that the spring makes a lot less noise and is of slightly higher quality. Although that could just be because it's new and my old FCS is old. One thing to note, expanding on textured buttons, is that if you are playing in VR, the warthog throttle is actually a pretty terrible experience. The switches are all over the place and you won't have any way to see them. I hope that all sticks in the future follow the trend of having unique textures on the buttons, so you can feel your way around what you're doing. Definitely a major plus if you're playing in VR.
If you're new to Thrustmaster in general, another thing to note is that the T.A.R.G.E.T. scripting software is second to none as far as allowing you to get really in depth with customizing how you want your stick to act, as well as how it's programmed. It's not exactly user-friendly, but you can do pretty much anything you want with it.
This stick's biggest weakness is the lack of buttons on the handle. There are plenty on the base, but I really find myself just wanting more on the handle. I picked up two of the cougar MFD's, and find those easier to use than the buttons on the base. Still, next time around, get some more buttons on this thing's handle Thrustmaster. I really wish that this stick and the warthog could make a baby. I'd love to have the metal sticks with the great button layouts, while also having the ability to use it ambidextrously, having a twist axis, and having the lightweight handling that this one does. Unfortunately, that's not really an option. So given that, this stick is my recommendation. The warthog is technically superior, but this stick offers more than enough bang for the buck, and I'm actually probably going to sell my hog soon since it doesn't have a twist axis. The extra handle buttons on the hog are really nice, but the lack of a twist axis just makes it almost useless in a space sim. And you can make up for a lack of buttons with VoiceAttack.
The bottom line is that whether you're a new pilot or a seasoned veteran, this stick can do it all pretty well. I've been flying in PC games since I was a kid, and I've used a lot of sticks. This one is my favorite. I think you'd be hard pressed to prove that a warthog is going to give any real-world combat advantage, so the only reason I see to fork over the extra cash is if you really want that metal handle (which does feel nice...).
My current setup is using two of these, two MFD's, and a throttle on my left side. I have rudder pedals, but I have no need for them with this setup. The two sticks provide full 6DOF freedom in space sims, and the throttle still allows me to fly regular planes (or long haul flights in space sims) without awkwardly trying to use two sticks. Then the MFD's fill the need for a near infinite amount of buttons. You can slap all of that on a board with some velcro, sit in an office chair, and rival the setups of the biggest and baddest simpits out there for less than what you'd pay for just a warthog stick in some places. Just buy two of these and you won't regret it, seriously.
That's my .02, hopefully it helps someone. Happy flying, o7
Ok, so I thought, maybe I don't need higher-end, so I tried this offering from Thrustmaster. IT WORKS!! No programming needed, even for Elite Dangerous, my fave game. You can simply assign button combinations to do every, and I mean EVERY FUNCTION in Elite Dangerous - I never have to use the keyboard at all.
Ok, there are no lit buttons but they have braille-like nibs on the buttons and I have learned to use them without looking. There are enough hats on the Throttle to do all the Interface Mode interactions, up down left right tab left tab right back next page prev page you can set them all!!!! I still use a gaming mouse for the non-ship stuff like FSS and manipulating the galaxy maps and free cameras but in theory all that could be done on the analog hat too.
The feel and the buttons are quite nice and after two weeks I am tickled pink that this system works great. I even You-toobed a video on how to take them down for improvements, such as the Throttle now is re-lubed and smooth as glass - its really great as while I am playing E:D I often make very subtle and smooth throttle changes. If you are careful, you will not void the warranty doing this - the things are made well and are durable enough to handle this.
The feel of all the buttons is just fine and all the hats work nice and precise. I have come to love the Twist Yaw and use it to get good hit ratios in E:D.
I have zero complaints about this product and if you think you need a higher end model - good luck because they will let you down HARD.
If these other models had worked, I would have kept one and not been making this review. But if I had to review it in that circumstance, this model would maybe only get 4 stars, has it does come across as a bit "toy-ish" - but I have to give it a full 5 stars because it made me happy because IT WORKS!!!
Pros:
* They are intuitive, making them easy to learn to use.
* They have a decent number of controls available, though the base buttons are awkward in the heat of the moment.
* Decently hefty for the build quality, which is nice if you haven't fixed them to a mount.
* Inexpensive for what you get.
Cons:
* The buttons on the base are just too awkward to get at in the heat of the moment (requiring taking your hands off stick), and will result in you fumbling for precious seconds due to the way in which they are laid out.
* These sticks are notorious for developing stick drift on at least one axis, which is not unreasonable for the build quality at this price range. You'll then need to use software to set up dead zones for the input to compensate for the drift.
* The TARGET configuration software is famously terrible, and can actually cause your system to not recognize the sticks, or may prevent you from updating their drivers. Don't use it, just download Joy2Key or an alternative.
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No futuro se precisar de outros itens certamente comprarei com ele novamente.
Pros: Plásticos de buena calidad, funcionamiento preciso, muchos botones de fácil acceso, ergonómico, peso adecuado para que los componentes no se muevan.
Cons: El throttle en ocasiones no fluye tan suave como se esperaría (sobre todo al inicio de cada uso). Mejora mucho al ajustar el tornillo de tensión, llegando a ser casi perfecto. Se hubiera beneficiado de un sistema con balines, pero, de nuevo, hay que considerar el bajo costo...
Otras consideraciones: Mi "cuarta" (distancia entre punta de meñique y pulgar con mano totalmente extendida) es de 23 cms. Las personas con manos un poco más grandes, encontrarán más cómodo el throttle (alcanzarán todos lo botones más fácilmente). Los pedales serían más cómodos si estuvieran unos cms. más separados. Estos no son puntos negativos, sólo consideraciones, pues la apreciación depende totalmente de la persona que los está usando.