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The Science of Interstellar

The Science of Interstellar

byKip Thorne
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Pablo D. Sisterna
5.0 out of 5 starsExcelente libro de divulgación sobre la física de "Interstelar".
Reviewed in the United States on February 25, 2024
Los gráficos y el ameno y claro estilo literario de Kip Thorne hacen de este libro una delicia para todo aquel que quiera aprender algo del complejo mundo de los agujeros negros y la dilatación del espacio-tiempo.
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LA in Dallas
3.0 out of 5 starsHow to see black holes and wormholes
Reviewed in the United States on November 13, 2023
This is how every explanation of science to a general audience should begin

If your struggle [to understand] is fruitless, then that’s my fault, not yours, and I apologize.

There are far, FAR too many people who thinking that being hard to understand is a sign of genius. This belief is as wrong as it gets. The sign of a real genius (and Kip S. Thorne is that) is making the most difficult ideas understandable to everyone. In a foreword, Chris Nolan (director of Interstellar) writes of Thorne

He saw his role not as science police, but as narrative collaborator—scouring scientific journals and academic papers for solutions to corners I’d written myself into. Kip has taught me the defining characteristic of science—its humility in the face of nature’s surprises.

Now, Thorne's words do hint at one limit. He mentions "your struggle". He's not promising to slip the comprehension effortlessly into your brain. If you want it, you have to work for it -- he can't entirely do that part for you. It's a fair demand. He has surely worked very, very hard, most of his life, to understand these things he's trying to explain. On top of that, he worked hard on the film and on this book.

A warning for kindle users: there are lots of pictures, most of them are in color, and you will not understand them without the color. I read the text on my kindle paperwhite, which doesn't do color, but kept a copy open on my desktop computer for the sake of the pictures. This worked pretty well for me.

I am a scientist and a mathematician. I am far from an expert on gravity, but I have studied it. Still, I learned a lot. I remember when I saw Interstellar, many of my friends complained that the film presents an unrealistic picture of what happens when one falls into a black hole -- that in reality your body would be shredded to atoms on encountering the singularity. I thought the same, but was willing to let it go -- it's science fiction, after all. Turns out we were all wrong. The singularities (plural -- yes, there are three) of a black hole may be more gentle than I or my friends had any idea of. Thorne doesn't tell you that it's possible to survive falling into a black hole. Indeed, he says in his opinion, it is unlikely. But that is just his opinion, not proven fact.

I do have one complaint. Too much of the book read like a HOWTO for producing images of blackholes and wormholes. Of course this was a big deal for Thorne and the Interstellar team, who worked hard to produce the extraordinary (and Oscar-winning) realistic visual effects. A lot of new and original science by Thorne and visual effects lead Paul Franklin went into this. Very cool. But honestly, I didn't really want it explained in quite so much such detail.

In summary, The Science of Interstellar is a great work of science explanation, and is also interesting for showing how a scientifically realistic science fiction movie got made.
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Pablo D. Sisterna
5.0 out of 5 stars Excelente libro de divulgación sobre la física de "Interstelar".
Reviewed in the United States on February 25, 2024
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Los gráficos y el ameno y claro estilo literario de Kip Thorne hacen de este libro una delicia para todo aquel que quiera aprender algo del complejo mundo de los agujeros negros y la dilatación del espacio-tiempo.
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John Walker
5.0 out of 5 stars The science behind the stunning images and events of the movie Interstellar
Reviewed in the United States on January 2, 2020
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Christopher Nolan's 2014 film Interstellar was eagerly awaited by science fiction enthusiasts who, having been sorely disappointed so many times by movies that crossed the line into fantasy by making up entirely implausible things to move the plot along, hoped that this effort would live up to its promise of getting the science (mostly) right and employing scientifically plausible speculation where our present knowledge is incomplete.

The author of the present book is one of the most eminent physicists working in the field of general relativity (Einstein's theory of gravitation) and a pioneer in exploring the exotic strong field regime of the theory, including black holes, wormholes, and gravitational radiation, for which he won the Nobel Prize in Physics for 2017. Prof. Thorne was involved in the project which became Interstellar from its inception, and worked closely with the screenwriters, director, and visual effects team to get the science right. Some of the scenes in the movie, such as the visual appearance of orbiting a rotating black hole, have never been rendered accurately before, and are based upon original work by Thorne in computing light paths through spacetime in its vicinity subsequently published as professional papers.

Here, the author recounts the often bumpy story of the movie's genesis and progress over the years from his own, Hollywood-outsider, perspective, how the development of the story presented him, as technical advisor (he is credited as an executive producer), with problem after problem in finding a physically plausible solution, sometimes requiring him to do new physics. Then, Thorne provides a popular account of the exotic physics on which the story is based, including gravitational time dilation, black holes, wormholes, and speculative extra dimensions and “brane” scenarios stemming from string theory. Then he “interprets” the events and visual images in the film, explaining (where possible) how they could be produced by known, plausible, or speculative physics. Of course, this isn't always possible—in some cases the needs of story-telling or the requirement not to completely baffle a non-specialist with bewilderingly complicated and obscure images had to take priority over scientific authenticity, and when this is the case Thorne is forthright in admitting so.

Sections are labelled with icons identifying them as “truth”: generally accepted by those working in the field and often with experimental evidence, “educated guess”: a plausible inference from accepted physics, but without experimental evidence and assuming existing laws of physics remain valid in circumstances under which we've never tested them, and “speculation”: wild and wooly stuff (for example quantum gravity or the interior structure of a black hole) which violates no known law of physics, but for which we have no complete and consistent theory and no evidence whatsoever.

This is a clearly written and gorgeously illustrated book which, for those who enjoyed the movie but weren't entirely clear whence some of the stunning images they saw came, will explain the science behind them. The cover of the book has a “SPOILER ALERT” warning potential readers that the ending and major plot details are given away in the text. I will refrain from discussing them here so as not to make this a spoiler in itself. I read the book before seeing the movie, and when I did I enjoyed it more for having read the book, since I knew what to look for in some of the visuals and was less likely to dismiss some of the apparently outrageous occurrences by knowing that there is a physically plausible (albeit extremely speculative and improbable) explanation for them.

There are a few typographical errors and one factual howler: Io is not “Saturn's closest moon”, and Cassini was captured in Saturn orbit by a propulsion burn, not a gravitational slingshot (this does not affect the movie in any way: it's in background material).
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iank
4.0 out of 5 stars Do you know what the event horizon of a black hole is?
Reviewed in the United States on December 13, 2014
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The imagery in Christopher Nolan's movie Interstellar is breathtaking in IMAX. One of the most memorable scenes is of the massive black hole named Gargantua. In this scene we view something that mankind will not see in reality in the foreseeable future.

In Kit Thorne's book the reader learns that in making the movie Nolan stayed as close to known science and scientific speculation as possible. This science can be difficult, but Thorne writes well and provides a number of diagrams that illustrate the points he is making.

Prof. Thorne worked on the movie from it's early beginnings in 2005, when Christopher Nolan's brother Jonathan worked on the early screen play. At one time Steven Spielberg was slated to direct the movie. We can be glad that he dropped out, because he would not have made the breathtaking movie that Nolan did.

Thorne covers the science from the beginning of the movie to the end, where Cooper falls through the black hole into the tesseract structure. As Thorne warns at the start of the book, some sections can be heavy going. If you don't know what an event horizon is, the book may be especially difficult.

What makes black holes so difficult is that their physics is far outside any normal experience.

For example, at the end of the movie, Cooper, in one of the landing craft, falls into the black hole. In a massive black hole the tidal forces (the difference in gravity between your toes and the top of your head) are small so he can survive the trip across the event horizon.

Thorne mentions several times in the book that as an object approaches the event horizon, time, relative to the rest of the universe, slows toward infinity. To the outside observer, an object becomes trapped at the event horizon (although it cannot be seen). What is hard to understand is that the object, in its own frame of reference, does cross the event horizon.

Thorne does not succeed in fully explaining exactly what is happening in this strange region that is outside of our universe. For example, looking out of the hole, in the direction he is falling, does Cooper see all of time come to an end? How fast is he traveling? If he orbits just below the event horizon, is he traveling near the speed of light? Why, exactly, is it so important that Cooper intersect the out falling singularity? Simply stating that this is "historical light" is not an obvious explanation.

I suspect that the problem is that many of the answers to these questions exist in mathematical equations, which are Thorne's old friends, since he has spent a lifetime with them.

These complexities make the book both fascinating and difficult at the same time. Einstein once said that ideas should be as simple as possible, but no simpler. Thorne is dealing with complex material and has done a good job of trying to live up to Einstein's dictum.
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AlchemystAZ
5.0 out of 5 stars A TESSERACT OF RELIGIOUS HOPE IN QUANTUM GRAVITY
Reviewed in the United States on March 8, 2015
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Although I haven't seen the movie yet, I bought everything about it in book form. I'm obviously a sci-fi nut. My own difference from the intended Hollywood-defined Mass Audience (Slam!) is that I have been studying gravitation theory, high-energy particle physics (Wheeler), and advanced math since the 1960s, worked at UCSD in high-energy physics, and gee whiz, got lectured by people at Cal Tech like Feynman. There, take that--I can drop names too, which this book does a helluva lot. I'm delighted to read about the people who make movies. Watching an Extra on the BLADE RUNNER Blu-ray disc yesterday reinforced what Kip Thorne says about Directors: they are gods. The Director goes with Mass Audience appeal over Truth, beauty over Truth, which is how to make money and get an Oscar for Special Effects. Nothing wrong with that. Unusual to read that Truth in a science book, however. I appreciate the updates in cosmology theory, even when they have to be labeled truth, educated guess, or speculation. There should have been a fourth circled symbol OG for when explanations were meant for Old Geezers like me. All the emphasis on colorful black boards full of symbols takes me back to the obviously-Einstein character in THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, although his blackboard was just plain chalk on slate probably. In both movies, that DAY ESS and INTERSTELLAR, a blackboard full of incomprehensible (to The Mass Audience) are as much Eye Candy as the actresses. One of my Professors wrote equations with his right hand and simultaneously erased them with his left hand. Thanks to this book and its internet links, at least we can study the equations longer, until our brains float thru the branes. Funny how INTERSTELLAR has a religious or occult theme, like CONTACT bringing Arroway to her dead father, and GRAVITY bringing its heroine to prayer and thanksgiving at the end. Is it fair to ask if that trope should be labeled S? Mass Audience again will answer.
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Glenn Whiteside
5.0 out of 5 stars Great book on the science of Interstellar, black hole properties have conflicting claims in book that could have been made clear
Reviewed in the United States on January 4, 2015
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Great book explaining all the science behind the movie. However in the book there are some conflicting claims about the properties of black holes that should be cleared up. In Chapter 5 on Black Holes on page 45, Dr. Thorne writes "First, a weird claim: Black holes are made from warped space and warped time. Nothing else - no matter whatsoever." Then in Chapter 6 on Gargantuan's Anatomy on page 57, Dr. Thorne writes "If we know the mass of a black hole and how fast it spins, then from Einstein's relativistic laws we can deduce all the hole's other properties:". If there is no matter whatsoever in a black hole, how can we calculate the mass? The equation w (weight, matter) = m (mass) x g (gravity) doesn't hold since Einstein's relativistic laws are used to calculate the mass where m (mass) = c2 (speed of light squared) / E (energy). I think this should have been made clearer with some simple examples and calculations to reduce confusion for the average person between mass and matter and where and how the Energy is measured for a black hole. I do like the quote about black holes to indicate that there are no extra, independent properties beyond its mass and spin on page 57: "A black hole has only two hairs, from which you can deduce everything else about it." One question though, what about non-spinning black holes, are these just "single hair" black holes? I also really like Dr. Thorne's labeling of the status of the science for Interstellar on page 33 where "T" stands for Truth (green), "EG" stands for Educated Guess (purple), and "S" stands for Speculation (red) and this is labeled in color at the beginning of a chapter or section so the reader is aware of where science stands today on the particular subject in the movie. Overall a great book on black holes and explaining all the science behind the movie which couldn't be explained well in the movie's limited time. Well worth the read and furthering of science education.
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Vernon M. Dolphin
5.0 out of 5 stars Get Used to Interstellar. it's the guiding metaphor of the century
Reviewed in the United States on January 28, 2015
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From Dr. Vernon M. Dolphin

This book is well-crafted, with a solid foundation in astrophysics. The author, Kip Thorne, is a professor of the subject at the California Institute of Technology. That hooked me. I was tired of being zipped about the universe on sheer imagination with no roots in fact.
Imagination of our century is soaring as the master gear of social change. The writer of Interstellar, Kip Thorne, wants you to soar with him. I believe Interstellar will touch your brain and launch your imagination. An admirer of H.G. Wells, Isaac Asimov and Robert Heinlein, Kip Thorne follows the best of the best. As a bona fide scientist at Cal Tech, and meticulous writer, he earns your credence from page one.
For me, as a retired professor of the philosophy of science, logic and the philosophy of mathematics – I tire of the mishmash of wannabee Sci-Fi writers. We can’t fly high with high school gimmicks. We need to believe what we see, hear and believe what we read. So I’m glad Interstellar was born. I feel the plausibility. If your sky’s the limit. Go For it.
Also, Interstellar is also an excellent desk book for teachers of advanced high school, or college. Students will lap up Thorne’s carefully crafted descriptions of the four energies in the universe. Students will stand on the shoulders of Newton, Einstein et al. just as Newton himself said he did with his math teacher.
Last point. The discipline of writing and of reading requires a sense of limits. Kip Thorne’s book reminds us of a vital intellectual responsibility. Martin Cruz, an eminent author said it: “Just don’t fake it.” With but a small bow to the Hollywood moguls, Kip Thorne’s succeeds. You may or may not fly high with the movie, but as for Thorne’s book, I’d say go for it.

Dr. V.M. Dolphin
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JMM
5.0 out of 5 stars The Science of Interstellar
Reviewed in the United States on November 8, 2014
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"The Science of Interstellar" is a great book that serves as an insightful companion to the film. The movie is very entertaining, and it left me curious to find out more about some of the scientific aspects. The movie was marketed as being based on "real science" - after watching the film, it's clear that it is not that simple. Some of the film (particularly the latter part of it) hinges on theories that have not been proven by any means; nor have they been disproven, so in some sense the film may be accurate to what some of our "best guesses" are when it comes to current science.

Kip Thorne, whose work on theoretical physics is featured in the film, authors this book. He elaborates on the science seen in the movie, and aims to increase the audience's understanding of the theories within. It's a well-written text that does a good job explaining things to an average reader. He includes a number of charts, diagrams, and illustrations which definitely helped me to understand some of the more difficult concepts.

I look forward to seeing the film again now that I have read the book; I think it will certainly allow my appreciation for the movie to grow.

Some examples of what is discussed in the book:
- The physical laws of our universe
- The physics of wormholes and black holes
- Gravity & time dilation
- Details of the spacecraft Endurance
- Blight, food/oxygen shortage on Earth
- The equations on the chalkboard
- much more, including spoilers.

For more reviews of Film & TV related books, visit MovieArtBook(dot)com

** Note: If you want to learn more about the making of the movie, I also recommend this book:
Interstellar: Beyond Time and Space
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Brendan Abrego
5.0 out of 5 stars Awesome Review
Reviewed in the United States on May 24, 2023
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This book is actually really interesting I was trying to seem smart to my friends by explaining someo of the stuff to my friends. But I couldn't explain soemthing that is too complex so I just made some stuff up to seem smart but other than that it's a very good book.
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LA in Dallas
3.0 out of 5 stars How to see black holes and wormholes
Reviewed in the United States on November 13, 2023
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This is how every explanation of science to a general audience should begin

If your struggle [to understand] is fruitless, then that’s my fault, not yours, and I apologize.

There are far, FAR too many people who thinking that being hard to understand is a sign of genius. This belief is as wrong as it gets. The sign of a real genius (and Kip S. Thorne is that) is making the most difficult ideas understandable to everyone. In a foreword, Chris Nolan (director of Interstellar) writes of Thorne

He saw his role not as science police, but as narrative collaborator—scouring scientific journals and academic papers for solutions to corners I’d written myself into. Kip has taught me the defining characteristic of science—its humility in the face of nature’s surprises.

Now, Thorne's words do hint at one limit. He mentions "your struggle". He's not promising to slip the comprehension effortlessly into your brain. If you want it, you have to work for it -- he can't entirely do that part for you. It's a fair demand. He has surely worked very, very hard, most of his life, to understand these things he's trying to explain. On top of that, he worked hard on the film and on this book.

A warning for kindle users: there are lots of pictures, most of them are in color, and you will not understand them without the color. I read the text on my kindle paperwhite, which doesn't do color, but kept a copy open on my desktop computer for the sake of the pictures. This worked pretty well for me.

I am a scientist and a mathematician. I am far from an expert on gravity, but I have studied it. Still, I learned a lot. I remember when I saw Interstellar, many of my friends complained that the film presents an unrealistic picture of what happens when one falls into a black hole -- that in reality your body would be shredded to atoms on encountering the singularity. I thought the same, but was willing to let it go -- it's science fiction, after all. Turns out we were all wrong. The singularities (plural -- yes, there are three) of a black hole may be more gentle than I or my friends had any idea of. Thorne doesn't tell you that it's possible to survive falling into a black hole. Indeed, he says in his opinion, it is unlikely. But that is just his opinion, not proven fact.

I do have one complaint. Too much of the book read like a HOWTO for producing images of blackholes and wormholes. Of course this was a big deal for Thorne and the Interstellar team, who worked hard to produce the extraordinary (and Oscar-winning) realistic visual effects. A lot of new and original science by Thorne and visual effects lead Paul Franklin went into this. Very cool. But honestly, I didn't really want it explained in quite so much such detail.

In summary, The Science of Interstellar is a great work of science explanation, and is also interesting for showing how a scientifically realistic science fiction movie got made.
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Liam H Dooley
3.0 out of 5 stars More physics than you probably knew and wanted to know
Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2015
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This book sets out to explain the physics - particularly cosmological physics (versus say particle) - that was used in the film, or otherwise are relevant to events in the film. You won't find the Higgs Boson here, nor cold physics, nor dark energy/dark matter. I respect the challenge that Dr Thorne had in this book: to write a book that was accessible to the non-scientist, but not dumbed down to the level of USA today or CNN. If you have an MA or PhD in cosmology, it's probably like reading an introductory English language textbook for a native English speaker. You might find something interesting and have some ideas put into a new perspective, but you aren't going to be astounded and surprised.

ANY theoretical physics book for popular consumption (ie that is not a university textbook) will struggle with explaining complex concepts that are usually developed through mathematics WITHOUT using much math. It's a lot like describing a symphony with words and without the music. I am not a physicist. As an example, I read about special relativity in some popular books and saw some videos on youtube. But eventually I took a real course with math on the subject, and when I saw the calculations (and did them myself) the principle made a lot more sense.

This book really covers a lot of concepts in a relatively short and concise book: black holes, multiple dimensions (branes/membranes), gravity, special relativity, general relativity, worm holes, and very briefly biology (ie the blight). I would say that having these concepts explained in the context of a film, which has clear visuals and drama, works better than the endless metaphors that other physics writers (like Brian Greene) attempt to do. No criticism of them...they just need to get their concepts into a film!

Don't blame the book, or Dr. Thorne, for any plot holes and failings of the film (there are no small number). He wasn't the director, and all he could do was provide guidance. But again he couldn't make the final decisions, and to his credit screen writing is not his job nor diplomas.

I have TWO major complaints however about the book:

1) the biggest one is that he does not address the paradox of time travel (backwards). There is simply nothing in physics (or common sense) that permits traveling back in time. He explains in the book that Nolan's concept was that gravity waves can travel back in time. Even if we accept this, we CANNOT accept that they can interact with the past in a substantial way. And this movie is a great example of why. What if he or someone else sent messages to someone to have their grandfather killed before their father was born? Well, of course, if that happens the messenger can't be born. But if he isn't born, how can he send the message to have his grandfather killed? Again, I don't blame this book for this part of the plot, but I would have liked the book address this paradox/impossibility. If he had just said that this was just an artistic necessity for the story, I would have been fine.

2) the last chapter on gravitational waves and escaping from earth is rushed and honestly doesn't make sense. What exactly (or possibly) might Cooper have learned in the singularity that would have enabled Murph to "master" gravity? Second, why would the earth need to be destroyed when the space stations depart? There are probably several ways in which mastering gravity could have facilitated the departure of the space stations, some of which don't need to destroy the planet. My idea is building an anti-gravity machine by harvesting gravity waves and converting them into energy while at the same time slipping through (escaping) positive gravity waves. A bit like how super torpedoes create an air bubble to reduce or remove water resistance.

My last observation is that, though I read the book attentively, there are still a number of concepts that are not fully clear to me. Why? Because they are incredibly complex, require years of study, mathematics, and generally more brain power than I have. I probably got about 50% of the concepts well enough so that I could passably re-explain them to someone else. But that's not bad, since 80% of the book is fairly dense with good and thought-provoking cosmological science.
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