Amazon.com: Customer reviews: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler

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Test’n OC potential immediately. Edits: Wrangle voltage, it’s awesome! BIOS shuffle. Yippee Ki Yay!

Reviewed in the United States on July 11, 2019

Great CPU for everyone at stock, challenging for overclock enthusiasts.

Edit 13 - “Guess who’s back, back again.”

BIOS F60f Update AGESA ComboV2 1.1.0.0 D, 5000 series compatibility and all that sweet refined micro code goodness. Finewine TM.

If you can get the 5000 series do it, 5600X seems great for gaming right now, 19% increase in FPS over 3000 series is legit. So unless you actually need the extra cores of the 3700X or 3800X don’t get them.

Keeping it brief, got a new job, lots of intense work, moved, computer throwing fits, “ain’t no body got time fo dat,” new laptop, furloughed, ‘I got time for dat,’ fixed, “~it’s been a whileee~,” updates, and here we are.

This latest BIOS seems to have smoothed out my experience to glass, my only solid evidence is a few runs in Time Spy which had the highest CPU scores I’ve ever had, 10,762 vs 10,581. Doesn’t seem like much, but the CPU physics test stays at a high frame rate with no jutters unlike before. Micro stutters that I used to see from my pair of GTX 570s were common for me to see in these CPU physics tests. That is no more.

DRAM OCs are also stable with 1usmus‘s Calculator v1.7.3, 3800CL16 1.4v (from 3600CL18), snappy and not crashy. Might try for 4000 again but then again maybe not.

Unfortunately that seems to be the extent of my rig’s power. My GTX 1070 Ti is quite upset with me and doesn’t hold high OCs anymore. Not getting a new GPU last year seems to have been a bad call I guess since it’ll likely be fall before prices become reasonable again.

I’m going to finally move forward with my mono-block and multi radiator install and have very stabile OCs with maybe one last GPU upgrade in the future.

Man, what a crazy couple years huh? Stay safe out there.

Edit 12 - “Welcome to the party pal!” : BIOS F50 AGESA 1.0.0.4 B, ‘Return of the Features’, memory overclocking, CPU under volting, and 1usmus Power Plan conclusion.

Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and Christmas sales mean choosing the 3800X over the 3700X is easy as the likelihood of a better binned chip and better Infinity Fabric is worth the $30-$40 price difference. So welcome to Enthusiast Land where we find the limits for fun! And while I do encourage others to join it can be rough out here sometimes.

BIOS F50 AGESA 1.0.0.4 B, the refinement of the microcode has helped stabilize my computer’s performance. (Reset the profiles again!) It also brought back many features that I forgot my board came with. It’s been interesting to see a new base line of performance emerge and I’ve got mixed feelings about it. On the one hand the 3800X’s performance is better than ever, and on the other hand I’ve got a tighter window to find increased performance. Yes it’s nice to have better performance than before but dang if it isn’t annoying to have my tweaks repeatedly nulled.

The BIOS for my X470 board had a bunch of features removed for the launch of the 3000 series for stability reasons I suppose and I got so used to it that I only remembered them when this BIOS brought them back. CPU features like AMD Cool’n’Quiet came back and some voltage controls can actually control voltage again. Other features Have been gradually added from X570 boards like CPPC, Global C-state Control, and PPC Adjustment. Which leads us to 1usmus‘s power plan.

So with all these features now active again or introduced the 1usmus power plan actually works. It’s only noticeable when the processor encounters a lightly threaded program or many single thread programs. The normal AMD Power Plan distributes these jobs seemingly randomly over all the cores. 1usmus’s Power Plan focuses all the processes on your best CCX and sleeps the other CCX.

Going by AMD’s statements the best pair of cores in one CCX on your CPU (usually Gold Star and grey dot) are supposed to be the best at handling high demand or have high overclocking/electrically stable potential. Which makes it seem like 1usmus PP is how it’s supposed to be. Neither plan is perfect. AMD idles hotter but is on average cooler than full work load 1usmus. And W10 keeps messing with my results too.

I now prefer to use 1usmus but with my own Ryzen Master OC acting as a firmer boosting and peak voltage guide. I sincerely wish I could control how much voltage is sent to each core and have a ramping effect rather than keeping one core constantly at peak voltage. Keeping the 3800X cool is all you need for stability as when I’ve tested 1.275 and kept it under 65C it easily ran 4.45/4.40. After 65C my cooler hits a thermal runway with my 3800X and can’t get rid of the heat fast enough.

If you can get a good custom water cooling set up, two 240s or two 280s, and you keep it under 65C, you can probably find awesome overclocking/under-volting potential.

With this better default performance in mind let’s test memory. Average of three.
Full default motherboard settings, XMP, and Ryzen Master OC.

BIOS F50 3800X Default 2133 DRAM 1200 IF
-vs-
BIOS F50 3800X Default 3600 XMP DRAM 1800 IF
-vs-
BIOS F50 3800X (4.35/4.30 1.35v) 3600 XMP DRAM 1800 IF
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Cinebench 15: 2154 - 2164 - 2237
Cinebench 20: 4943 - 4954 - 5132
3DMark11: Physics FPS: 54.58 - 62.55 - 63.39
3DMark Cloud: Physics FPS: 53.76 - 56.18 - 56.84
3DMark Sky Diver: Physics FPS: 66.85 - 75.60 - 76.51
3DMark Firestrike: Physics FPS: 74.01 - 78.73 - 77.43 (W10 strikes again)
3DMark Time Spy: Physics FPS: 31.92 - 35.57 - 36.16

Stage 1 tweaking. This was easy to achieve but soaked too much time. (NA is too bored to carry on)

BIOS F50 3800X Default 3600CL16 DRAM 1800 IF
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BIOS F50 3800X (4.35/4.30 1.35v) 3600CL16 DRAM 1800 IF
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BIOS F50 3800X (4.35/4.30 1.35v) 3800 XMP DRAM 1900 IF
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Cinebench 15: 2162 - 2220 - 2255
Cinebench 20: 4985 - 5160 - 5146 (W10?)
3DMark11: Physics FPS: 63.74 - 64.27 - 64.50
3DMark Cloud: Physics FPS: 55.27 - 56.16 - 57.70
3DMark Sky Diver: Physics FPS: 76.46 - 78.58 - 77.49
3DMark Firestrike: Physics FPS: 79.34 - 80.48 - NA
3DMark Time Spy: Physics FPS: 35.61 - 36.83 - NA

Stage 2 tweaking once I get in the mood again. Zen 2 BIOS has come a long way in performance.
Really want a better GPU to stretch my 3800X’s legs with.

Edit 11 - Yippie Ki Yay Overclock'n! : BIOS F50a AGESA 1.0.0.4 & Windows 10 1usmus Power Plan. Return of memory OC.

It's here! (11/10/19) And wouldn't ya know it the changes in BIOS mean saved profiles no longer apply when loaded so time for new tweaks! It's all good news so far as the introduced changes in the BIOS have allowed me to further increase my Infinity Fabric Clock and my memory overclock. (11/15/19) 1900 IF and 32GB of 3800Mhz CL 18-20-20-20-36-58 memory @ 1.4v (still tweaking, there's more there). This has essentially tied my 3000Mhz CL14 in C20 and helped game FPS (Ryzen be like that). And startup times are most certainly decreased from before and feels like when I first switched to an SSD.

Destiny 2 runs flawlessly now (8 hour marathon and no crashes! New record!).

Now 1usmus is THE Ryzen memory overclocking guy and he came up with a W10 power plan that he claims boosts Ryzen performance. While I can't say for sure as I've been switching between my tweaks and the different power plans it seems to at least not decrease performance. There is however strange behavior from the average CPU voltage as a whole since W10 1903 (I'm on 1909) as it now only rarely sleeps cores. I'm still testing.

9/10 would update to this new BIOS again.

Edit 10 - Edit (insert Die Hard reference here): BIOS F42e (what happened to c and d?). Attempted improvements to aspects of the motherboard but an unexpectedly screechy side effect. So my CPU performance is still great but Gigabyte screwed up somewhere.

While the notes for the BIOS don’t say much of anything and it’s still 1.0.0.3 ABBA, my system seemed to boot just a bit faster than before. And that would have been nice to keep but for what ever reason whenever I played Destiny 2 it glitched the audio out for over ten minutes each time (I quit before letting it go further) and screeched like a broken Halloween decoration. Not like, “boo,” more like stadium feedback mixed with a scream mixed with max treble and erratic high pitch and volume. I find enemy Hive screams pleasant in comparison. And this led to reinstalls of audio drivers, verifying Destiny 2 install, and testing in other games, but of course D2 is special.

So I’m back to F42b. What ever initial ABBA BIOS you got, you might want to stick with if you play Destiny 2.

Looking forward to 1.0.0.4 with ‘100+’ micro code improvements but like before you can expect it on X470/B450/X370 in around a month or so (late November or sometime in December).

Side note: It’s winter! And that means attempting overclocking again with below freezing air flowing by! Long story short, not a noticeable difference, but the GPU liked it. Gamers Nexus already demonstrated that real automatic performance improvements only occur with LN2 and while that’d be fun, I just don’t have anywhere to put an LN2 container.

Additional Side Note: I’m skipping the 5700 XT. The jury is out and most models have been tested by nearly every tech outlet. Similar to this CPU, almost all the overclocking headroom is already used and means no real tweaking. If the performance was just a bit more then I’d go for it but I have a 144Hz 1440p G-Sync monitor (before Nvidia embraced Free-sync) and losing that for frame rates that would show tearing just wasn’t enough for the switch. Still probably a red team future.

Edit 9 - Edit harder: BIOS F42b. This not only implemented ABBA, the fix for boost problems, it also fixed a bunch of bugs in the Gigabyte BIOS in general. No more boot hitches, GPU driver errors, and memory overclocks are a breeze. Hurray!

So yes, it automatically boosts properly now. I see 4.4-4.5 spikes on my best cores under load and all core auto is 4.2. OC All core is 4.35/4.3 @ 1.325V and 4.5/4.3 @ ~1.48 (it over heats almost immediately, see below).

Sad news is I think my Corsair AIO is either failing or the horrible cold plate leveling is making direct cooling of the chiplets too difficult now. Its' copper surface is convex and therefore doesn’t cool the edges of the cpu properly. The chiplet for CPU cores is nearer the edge of the chip than typical mono chips.

A quick word on my earlier edits CPU GHz numbers. Before Edit 5 I was using CPUZ and HWMonitor as Ryzen Master was broken on my computer. The new Ryzen Master to be used with the 3000 series installed an additional folder in the registry and then tried to reference the old Ryzen Master registry which broke the install until the old registry was deleted by me.

During the testing of Edit 5 and after I began using HWINFO and Ryzen Master (then fixed). HWMonitor gives “optimistic” boost readings and CPUZ can’t tell the whole story. Looking at Ryzen Master, which only updates once per second, and HWINFO seems to correctly catch was HWMonitor almost gets. So the previous 4.5 readings were likely "stretch clocks”, not really increased performance, and single core readings of 4.65 sadly were likely a read error. (An earlier edit of this edit I screwed up and switched HWINFO and HWMonitor, they are correctly ordered now.)

Edit 8 - A good day to Edit: Y’all fans of ABBA? Gonna be dancing soon enough to the latest BIOS that’ll have AGESA 1.0.0.3 ABBA, the fix for Zen 2 to hit the advertised boost clocks automatically.

Rather than forcing the CPU to dance to my tune, which doesn’t quite jive with boost/voltage mechanics of Zen 2, it’ll boost to the rated clocks. While I’ve only heard of it beginning to hit X570 there aren’t any X470/B450 or X370 BIOS(s) being released yet and AMD is projecting broad releases by September 30th.

Now I did in fact switch back to the now pulled/old F41c BIOS which was replaced by F41 officially. Since my motherboard has dual BIOS I can switch between them quickly. Long story short with exactly the same settings F41c posts and F41/F42a doesn’t. Basically, F41c rocks higher memory overclocks and tighter timings (my old OCs I missed you!). Downside, the CPU auto boosts are super inconsistent 4.1 - 4.3 under close to identical conditions (temp, ambient, active programs) using the same benchmarks. And it’s full of twitchy boosts like reacting to rapid mouse movements, which is present in F40 as well, F41 and F42a fix this.

Side note: $200 for 32Gb 3600CL18 (OC CL16) with built in RGB and temp monitoring? Bought. I just had to get 3600 memory, I couldn’t take it anymore, I needed to know if it made a change, and it did. Better frame times and game FPS, but since it’s generally looser timings, Cinebench took a hit and I imagine production applications would take a hit as well. 3000CL14 got better scores than 3600CL16 but games ran faster.

I’m not sure how much further I want to test tighter timings as I do want to get ABBA when it releases, but I’ll probably keep pushing it until something breaks because, “Yippee Ki Yay Overclock’n!”

Edit 7 - Live free or Edit: Begrudgingly settled on latest BIOS for overclocking (7/31), oc scores, and the importance of Motherboards.

BIOS F42a is a tricky one, coupled with updates to Windows I no longer get detectable voltage drops below 1v in auto. Keep in mind this is with the Ryzen Balanced Power plan as well. Granted it was through monitoring software and an oscilloscope would be ideal. But if we look at my temperature monitoring, my CPUs idle temps went up around 10C, maybe another BIOS or Windows update will change it. You can go see my over clocking results near the bottom of the review, which slightly decreased over time with one update after another but the average improvement currently over stock is around 8%.

My previous boost clocks are down and I am running headlong into thermal limits before I get back to my old manual oc. I’m considering going back to BIOS 41c and I’ll probably edit when I’m done testing again.

Motherboards: I use the Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 7 WiFi, I like the board but some of the BIOS updates have been kinder to me than others, and if you want to get the most out of your 3800X you might really need dig deep. One of the most interesting recent developments with Zen 2 is how different motherboards using the same CPU can’t achieve the same clock speeds. One examination by Hardware Unboxed looked at 14 different motherboards with most being X570 and one being a B350. Of the 14 motherboards only six met or exceeded the 3800X’s boost clock of 4.5Ghz with manual adjustments. Of those six only three exceeded 4.5, the Aorus Xtreme (4.550), MSI A Pro (4.525), and Aorus Master (4.525).

There’s performance available with the right motherboard it seems and being on X570 might mean fewer wacky and frustrating BIOS ‘updates’ like what I’m going through on X470.

Edit 6 - Edit with a Vengeance: Yet another BIOS, F42a. RIP my old OCs but Cinebench 20: 4501 -> 4687.

Thanks to the dedication of many internet and YouTube based reviewers/researchers, voltages and clock speeds for Zen 2 are now better understood. 1.5 volt bursts are within design perimeters with it dropping to sub 1 volt when unengaged. (Often so fast it’s only detectible by Oscilloscope.) AMD has binned and designed these processors so throughly that traditional overclocking isn’t as applicable anymore. Zen 2 often try’s to reach user OC clocks and voltages only to score worse despite posting. It’s quite the journey and will continue to be at this rate. I’m enjoying the challenge as an enthusiast and even if I didn’t OC the performance gain over Zen + has been great. (REFERENCED: Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed, LinusTechTips, Level1Techs, Der8auer, AMD Reddit, and AMD.)

Edit 5: New chipset and drivers and BIOS oh my! Suffice to say, Cinebench R20: 3715 -> 4501.

Edit 4: While I'm still working on OC results the prelim finding is as follows: All core OC (4.5) is great for full load applications but the manual tweaking to get controlled automatic operation (auto boosts) is better for games. (3.2 to 4.65)

Edit 2/3: After reinstalling F4 BIOS and 2600X, testing F4, F30, F40, and F41c BIOS; then testing and retesting 3800X with F40 & F41c, the results seem to have settled down. F40 played Nice with the 2600X more than 41c and 3800X likes the 41c better.

Some strange system behavior prompted the BIOS testing which was irritating me as while the 2600X obeyed my instructions and settings and the 3800X didn’t. After diving deeper and probing further I remembered what I read on reddit about some motherboards pushing 30-50% more watts than spec. Not only did limiting PPT W to 105W lower temperatures, it also curbed voltage spikes with more consistent lower Vcore when idle: 1.00 Vcore. When under load it only occasionally taps 1.380 and hangs around 1.3-1.35. So all this in addition to what settings I used below actually resulted in some better scores in some places, which I’ll put a note on. Although it did lower boost frequency in some spots I’ll still have to test more.

Side note: I’ve never had to work this hard to make a CPU run around spec. I mean I sort of knew it was coming but good lord. And I haven’t even serious started overclocking yet.

Edit 1: Wrangle that voltage. (See voltage.)

Bought at $399.99. Looking forward to hopefully a better binned 3700X essentially.

Finally arrived looks pretty legit but with all these BIOS updates and even Nvidia driver changes my old overclocks have become unstable on both the 2600X (RIP 4.2@1.325) and 1070Ti. For example, after updating to the first Ryzen 3000 BIOS I lost the OC on my Ram from 3333CL15 to 3333CL16. Was previously proved stable via Prime95 and memtest86. Booting is also strange and hiccups compared to 2600X boots, it boots but hangs a couple times. Hoping future BIOS updates will even things out.

(Edit: each newer BIOS killed my mem oc I can only run tweaked 3000CL14 without errors anymore.)

Voltage: The default Gigabyte determined voltage being sent to the 3800X is scary (1.35 - 1.55 Vcore) so I’ve set Vcore to Normal with a -0.10 Dynamic Vcore and Standard on the Loadline Calibration so it typically runs at 1.205 - 1.380. That is the baseline I’m using for the 3800X, with this setting it turbos to 4.4 GHz almost all the time and all-core 4.3.

Focusing on CPU results from benches as I'm waiting on custom RX 5700 XT cards and my 1070Ti is already a bottleneck.

It’s also worth mentioning that my gpu usage has gone up from 97-98% which I just assumed was the peak to 98-100% not just as spikes but as constant usage. It already seems like the tests and some games are already smoother.

2600X Auto OC XFR (1.35-1.45 Vcore) VS 3800X Auto (1.2-1.4 Vcore)
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Cinebench 15: 1236 - 1597
Cinebench 20: 2734 - 3715
3DMark11: Physics FPS: 41.76 - 54.74
3DMark Cloud: Physics FPS: 37.00 - 46.73
3DMark Sky Diver: Physics FPS: 51.71 - 65.38
3DMark Firestrike: Physics FPS: 57.23 - 71.33
3DMark Time Spy: Physics FPS: 21.91 - 29.48

3800X BIOS 40/41 Auto VS 3800X BIOS 42c OC 4.4 Ghz 1.45v (not recommended)
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Cinebench 15: 1597 - 2150
Cinebench 20: 3715 - 4948
3DMark11: Physics FPS: 54.74 - 57.88
3DMark Cloud: Physics FPS: 46.73 - 52.44
3DMark Sky Diver: Physics FPS: 65.38 - 71.65
3DMark Firestrike: Physics FPS: 71.33 - 75.60
3DMark Time Spy: Physics FPS: 29.48 - 33.37

Note: 3800X @ 4.325Ghz 1.375v yields very slightly worse results than 4.4 but is significantly cooler.

Spec: -2600X@4.2 to be replaced by 3800X
-Gigabyte Aorus X470 Gaming 7 WiFi
-Corsair V. LPX 3000CL15 (@3333CL15) 32Gb (4x8GB)(Retired)
-Corsair V. RGB Pro 3600CL18@3800CL18
-Corsair H100i Pro x 2 x Corsair LL120 RGB
-Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250GB NVMe
-Samsung 860 Evo 2TB SSD
-MSI 1070Ti 8GB Titanium
-Corsair AX1200i

Avid overclocker since 2011 Sandy.

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Christian galvan

This CPU is beyond garbage

Reviewed in the United States on November 19, 2022

I’m very experienced in building PCs , and have used AMD products in the past, but this is apparently a rare case. I received this cpu and attached it to my motherboard which was fine but my AIO cooler and not come in. So I used the cooler fan it comes with . Little to my knowledge it’s better to attach a monkeys behind to your cpu then the garbage it comes with. Furthermore I use it, then my aio cooler comes so I go to take it off. Being very careful I go to remove the fan. With the hands of a surgeon I notice it does not shrug no move, no matter my efforts. I decide to try getting alcohol somehow to breach , but my efforts were to no avail . So I have no choice but to try to pull it off with a little bit of muscle. Being as careful as I can I continue to do as such , and the fan comes out along with the cpu. That’s right the cpu. The fans thermal paste came out along with my cpu folks. Fine engineering if you ask me. So I immediately clean up the damage it caused and attempted to attached the cpu back with store bought thermal paste and my aio cooler and now the problem at hand is the cpu malfunction from most definitely the fan ripping it out my motherboard. In short I return set item explaining this to the company, and their response was because the pins were damaged they could no longer accommodate my refund. That’s right the pins lady’s and gentleman. Mind you when I received the cpu I never was able to fully examine it as like I stated before was waiting on my aio cooler. So to make matters worse they send me a possible faulty product which damaged my motherboard , did not respect my refund , took my money and ran to the hills. I will never be buying any of their products ever again. And if you read this and buy it. Good for you , can’t say I didn’t tell you my experience.

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Test’n OC potential immediately. Edits: Wrangle voltage, it’s awesome! BIOS shuffle. Yippee Ki Yay!

Reviewed in the United States on July 11, 2019

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SteveA

Fast processor, suitable for making toast, needs better coolor

Reviewed in the United States on February 16, 2020

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Various friends have versions of this processor and all said the stock air fan is "amazingly good". I got the 3800 version, which is not quite the fastest they sell at this point, but very fast.

Pros:

- 16 threads, very fast, good work horse
- good value for the money
- not Intel - I like competition
- Ubuntu 18.04 had no problems with it, drivers, etc. I wouldn't have expected it to.
- BIOS allows you to set DRAM speed, overclocking, etc.

Cons:

- no built in graphics - so you need to buy a separate card for that (which is fine since you'll probably want a big GPU gaming card or something anyway).

- this run freaking hot! I'm not overclocking at all and ith the stock fan, getting all 16 threads going it got up to 85C. Ouch!. That within spec, but the hotter is runs the sooner it's likely to burn out and stop functioning properly. I got a liquid cooler and now the same work loads cooler, but it still maxs at 70C. I use this for actual work, so I can keep 16 threads busy for hours. If you have one at home, and you don't have good A/C, I'm gonna guess this might not be usable on hot summer days. Even with the room temp being 21C, the CPU gets up to 70C. When it gets closer to 30C in the room, well, we'll see. It' retrospect I probably should have looked into the threadripper series more thoroughly (those are, in theory, more server oriented).

- you'll have limited motherboards to chose from. AMD just doesn't have the market share that Intel does. I wish they did. I got this and it works great (after updating BIOS) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SXF8GY3

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Alan

I love this CPU! Buy only if you want a better binned chip.

Reviewed in the United States on September 28, 2019

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The pic is the CPU in the box next to my PC.
I bought this to replace my 3700X even with the ABBA update my 3700X couldn't boost past 4.3Ghz. I got the infinity fabric to 1900Mhz with 3800 Cl 15 B- die (my 3700X could hit 1833, but it wasn't stable). I use precision boost overdrive with +200 Mhz max boost because it's better than my 4.3 OC. My system scored 5915 in cinebench R20; 2046 in Cinebench R15

This CPU is amazing! I chose the better value by getting the 3700X which was a dud. I then decided to spend the extra money for the 3800X and return the 3700X. I have better clock speeds, better fabric overclocks which allows me to run faster memory. Games are faster, but not by much. I game with the RTX 2080 at 1440p.

*Pros
Higher clock speeds
Better infinity fabric
Best stock cooler ever! (Not that I use it)

*Cons
Price

*Notes
Make sure to get high quality RAM. You will see the best performance by getting 3600 DDR4. Anything above that will decouple the infinity fabric and give you a decrease in performance unless you overclock infinity fabric (fclk) too be half your memory frequency.

Do your research on the parts you choose. Ryzen scales better with faster memory. That was my biggest mistake when building my first Ryzen PC I thought memory is memory, it doesn't matter.

The stock cooler is great, Ryzen boosts higher at lower temperatures, you can get an AIO liquid cooler, get a high end air cooler, or stick with the stock cooler I use it for my 2700X and the temps are fine. A custom loop isn't necessary unless you want the best temps for your CPU and GPU along with more overclocking headroom.

*Summary
Don't bother buying this chip if you don't care about slightly higher clock speeds or better fabric overclocking headroom. This is basically better silicon and you have more overclocking headroom. The 3700X has better value and still kicks butt.

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Redneck

Best 8 core bang for buck high end CPU available

Reviewed in the United States on December 1, 2019

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I really went back and forth on this CPU when building my own rig. I really wanted to go with the 3900X, but was unable to connect with one, but the 3800X has been a really great experience. I had a hard time deciding between the 3700X and 3800X, but went for the 3800X for the binning. I have not been disappointed. This CPU is simply amazing. I have it manually overclocked with a voltage offset. My everyday overclock is 4.4Ghz @ 1.3V all core and my max overclock is 4.5Ghz all core @ 1.406V. Like all processors overclocking is on a processor to processor basis, not all 3800X will overclock the same and I do suspect mine has very good binning. I will say though that other 3800X systems I have built for people will all overclock to 4.4Ghz all core at between 1.3 - 1.33V, most 3700X systems will only do 4.3Ghz with the same voltage.

When you overclock the 3800X to 4.4Ghz all core you have the same performance as an i9 9900K @ 5Ghz for productivity based applications and the 3800X @ 4.45Ghz all core will match (and even beat) the gaming performance of the i9 9900K within the margin of error in most modern titles (there are still a few that are heavily optimized for Intel systems and will still favor the 9900K).

When you consider the 3800X sells for over $100 cheaper than the 9900K(S) and you can get the same performance with the 3800X with a little overclocking it is a great value (keep in mind the 9900KS can overclock up to 5.3Ghz and at this clock speed will still outperform the 3800X but at a great deal of power consumption and heat production - you would need a serious custom loop).

All overclocking numbers I have given are on air, I use a NHU-14S with 2 140mm fans in push pull. All overclocking numbers are Prime95 stable (stability tested on Prime95 for 2hrs, also passed Aida64 and Realbench stability testing). I have found these processors to be rock solid and have very few stability issues, have never had a customer complaint on a 3800X build.

I highly recommend this processor to anyone who wants 9900K like gaming performance, needs better than 9900K performance for productivity, and wants to save $70 - $110 (for the 9900KS 5Ghz stock). Overclocked properly this processor is every bit the equal of the "best gaming processor", and can simply outperform it in productivity (rendering / editing / converting).

I'm including screenshots of Cinebench R20 multi and single core performance as well as a run of Time Spy (note that in the Time Spy run I didn't realize I had my GPU in a low power state which is why the overall score is a lower than normal. The important score is the CPU score).

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Howard

Used in a build for a graphic design computer also used for gaming.

Reviewed in the United States on May 5, 2020

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If you have done you research, you know that the AMD Ryzen series are well reviewed and have gotten a lot of feedback from various types of users. I purchased the Ryzen 7 3800X for use in a computer I build for graphic design and video creation that I will also game with. I use the Adobe Creative Cloud and it is a highly recommended CPU for what I was looking to do. The 8/16 core/thread count will easily handle video, animation, Photoshop and 3D CAD software I use. Less serious workflows could use the Ryzen 5 3600X , a great value for the price. If you are interested in my build, I listed it below. It was based on weeks of research and calls to friends who game and fellow designers.

I married the Ryzen 7 with an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 and an MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 which led to a higher end build. It also includes the Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD, Crosshair LPX 32GB memory, Thermaltake Smart 600 Watt power supply all placed into a Phanteks Evolv X computer case. I added the BenQ PD3200U 32" 4K UHD IPS Designer Monitor for the number of display modes and 100% sRGB.

Make sure you do your own research and find the right CPU and components for your needs and budget. Ensure they are compatible with your chosen CPU due to the differences in the socket and chip sets that AMD and Intel use. If your needs are similar to mine, consider my build. As a side note, any review that has noted flickering issues or dead pixels in the monitor I chose have been addressed per a call I placed to Ben Q. Call them for yourself if you do have any concerns.

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Blarney77

Excellent Upgrade from Ryzen 7 1700

Reviewed in the United States on January 20, 2021

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Bought this on sale here when I was looking for the 3700X, but that one was not available and the 3800X WAS available for about $10 more!
It's been plugging along quite well at good temps using the Wraithe air cooler and mild overclocking. I have not pushed terriblly hard yet, however, most benchmarking is very admirable. My BEST TEST on MY system with a RTX-2070, 32G 2666 ram, loading off an NVMe M.2 drive. I run Black Desert online, love the game, but it was not long ago upgraded with a "Remastered" mode and an "Ultra" graphics mode. These modes require power to run at good FPS. Running a Ryzen 7 1700 OCed to 3.5ghz. I was running Remastered at about 35fps and Ultra at about 16fps. THEN swapped to the 3800X CPU and WOW. NOW running Remastered at the maxxed 60fps at 2560x1440p. ULTRA running at that resolution at 35 to 40 fps. PLAYABLE at ULTRA Graphics that even the game says it just there for UHD pictures.
I also at times run at ULTRA WIDE SCREEN setting at 7680x1440! (Across 3 28" Monitors) Remastered now is my go to there with FPS hitting 45. Extreme Wide resolution at that amazing detail and though BDO is not technically Ray-Tracing, it DOES run amazing with this Ryzen 7 3800X which rarely gets over 55 degrees C even loaded with BDO, 3DMark, Passmark and a few others.
I will wait for the 5000 or 6000 CPUs to come out and come down in price. No sense paying for those when the 3800X is better than expected and everything I need.

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Austin miller

Good, but misleading

Reviewed in the United States on March 1, 2023

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To begin I bought this (ryzen 7 3800x), but received a ryzen 7 5800x. I didnt mind, because it was a free upgrade, but it says it comes with a cooler, but mine didn't. I was lucky enough to be able to use my old cooler, but now I need to get a new cooler. Other than that it runs great and fixed my bottle neck, but now runs very hot until I get a cooler.

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Torgo

Performance is outstanding. Runs hot at idle.

Reviewed in the United States on December 8, 2019

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Great speed and performance. This in conjunction with my Geforce 2700x super video card runs all modern games 60+ fps with no lag, all on high settings. Installation was simple, although the clamps for the stock heat sink and fan were a little bit of a pain, but they tend to be for previous processors.
My only criticism with this chip is its base clock speeds running hot at idle. It runs around 40c. After some time of investigating found that the boost speeds seem to go all over the place at idle, and raises at random the voltages as high as 1.3, 1.4 and even 1.5 volts. I applied the latest drivers for the chipset and bios and really didn't make a difference. Even messed with the power plans and no luck. As of this writing, I still haven't been able to bring it down. I may have to mess with the voltages in the bios, which I really wanted to avoid.
All that being said, in terms of performance, its great. Just be ready to have a really good coolant system in your case.

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Mholmes

Just go for the 3700X

Reviewed in the United States on November 16, 2023

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The 3700X has slightly less performance, but the price definitely justifies it more. If you’re gaming with this and you need the absolute best single cores then this is definitely decent.

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Amazon Customer

Only bought this for windows 11 Glad I did Great for gaming

Reviewed in the United States on November 19, 2021

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Had a six core AMD, before this , Good think my motherboard is kick ass did not have to upgrade.. anything else ,it was only 2 years old Windows did not support it, so I got this and I'm glad I did . I was always a intel man till since my first 286 Vtec computer..so the last Build I decided to try AMD to save a few bucks ,, So far very happy with AMD ,Did not think there would be much of a difference from the 6 to a 8 ,But there was a huge differences in my gaming.. all the bottle necking went away thought it was lag from game servers .. The stock heatsink and fan is kind of small but it dose the job.. keeps it at about 36 C and about 66 c with a full load.. well below the 95 c max. I'm still thinking about putting the big heatsink cooler I have .. but this stock one seems to be doing the job just fine and I don't want to loose the RBG fan lol AMD more bang for the buck for sure,,, I recommend 100%

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